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I am really surprised this ain't on here yet, but i am going to start it. So, what do you all think about treyvon martin and his death and that night when george zimmerman shot him? was Zimmerman racist? Was he just trying to protect the community? did he shoot for the sake of killing? why to all these question?
Is george zimmerman guilty? why?
and, does the I am black so you're racist card get played too much?
The issue shouldn't be racism, it should be the gross negligence and incompetence of the police force. If you have a confirmed murder, you don't let the murderer go that night even if it was in self defense. You need some questions answered, time for the community to adjust, and time for evidence to be gathered.
I definitely feel the race card gets played way too often.
This was not a race card issue, and it wasn't a Rivera-against-the-hoodies issue either.
The shooter was apparently not a very well-trained marksman or firearms handler or he would have controlled himself and assessed the situation before shooting down an unarmed person on the street.
Out here anyway, it's the firearms people calling for justice on this guy, not some racial-sensitivity-trainer. Post 1 should be ashamed to be a conservative, or pretending to support the responsible rights and duties associated with gun ownership, proper firearms training and real self-defense. Same goes for Mr. Hoodie Rivera.
This guy probably never spent any real time with a firearms instructor, probably didn't practice at the range, carry out a regimen of physical training, or other practices that make for a very proper, disciplined and if-necessary-deadly firearms handler. Sadly, while he could shoot down the young man on an open sidewalk, he is probably less than impotent when it comes to being able to protect unarmed civilians against a hostage-taker or an armed burglar.
Like so many things, people want to talk about the rights, and not the responsibilities. Whether it's owning a firearm, having physical combat skills, or anything similar, you are the master, and you are responsible for anyone around you less capable than you are. And that by its definition means you should exemplify self-control and the ability to properly assess the risks. Proper risk-assessment is a huge part of any form of tactical training for a myriad of reasons.
Any so-called "conservative" who wants to make this one a racial issue, a hoodie issue, or squeal like a little schoolgirl about rights, really should be ashamed of themselves.
I do agree with you leo, but I've heard a lot of people hear in florida who call him a racist because of the color of the kid's skin. While I admit it is a possibility, I doubt it had anything to do with it. People are playing the race card a lot in the local side of it.
I too live in Flori-DUH, and a lot of people have played the race card. It sickens me. Zimmerman, in my opinion was just someone who should not have owned a gun. Has far as everything else, let the courts decide.
I hate how media wilifies things, blows them out of proportion and reports on one side of the story, to the point where you really can't trust anything they say.
After the whole Casey Anthony case, and lots of others, I just don't know what to believe.
I am not saying it was or wasn't racist, merely that I don't know the facts of the case, and I sure am not going to go make my opinions based on Nancy Disgrace.
I think there should be a limit on media coverage of these types of cases, because the media can both influence the judicial process, and really convict people, be they guilty or innocent, in the eyes of the public, without taking any responsibility for it.
There is a Sydney Sheldon book about 3 women at a hospital that starts out with a prosecutor statement in court that so clearly paints the main character out to be a hdeartless murderer who killed for money. Then the book goes back and takes us through what actually happened, and you see how the prosecution was in fact completely wrong on all counts. The book wasn't great, it was fine read, but what stuck with me was how clearly it demonstrated the proper twisting and appropriation of facts to suit a purpose.
Of course the case is yet another confirmation of the ridiculous gun laws in the U.S. and the obsession with fire arms in this country, which has always saddened me.
No wonder a lot of people get shot when all you have to do is to reach for a gun you bought at Wal-Mart and press a trigger. It doesn't even take courage, just loss of self-control due to any type of emotional distress, or just a sick individual.
People kill people, yes, but guns meke it so easy.
At the same time the government is going on and on about cigarette labels, 21 years drinking age, and drug smuggling being a horrible crime, indicating that people clearly don't have the mind or responsibility to choose whether to smoke or buy recreational drugs, they fiercely protect the right of anyone to go buy a fire arm and go kill someone, andit's definitely not the gun makers fault.
Well, the vast majority of the people who are killed by guns in this country are killed by illegal guns. And there is actually a lot of other things that are wrong with your statement, but this really isn't the place for a gunrights argument.
Well, I think that it just goes to show what happens when you give everyone the right to own a gun.
In truth I think we don't know the facts, but I think it's fair to say that George zimmerman shot Treyvon Martin because he could.
Was he a racist? I don't know. But I think it's a difficult one in terms of whether the race card is "played too much." Interestingly, it seems to be those demographics who are as a rule not the ones who are subject to race-hate who tend to make the claims that we "play the race card too much."
I think there are different shades here - there are of course those burocrats who, in their desperation to be seen to be right-on and politically correct, make such decisions as to turn the naming of the Christmas lights into the winter wonder lights in the interests of equality, or who ban the singing of ba ba black sheep in nurseries lest it offend black people. However it would be wrong to suggest that racism doesn't still exist within our society, and that race-hate crimes aren't still a reality - they are.
Yes, I'm sure hate crimes do happen, but that doesn't mean that any crime involving people of different races are hate crimes. It is entirely possible to have a crime based on something other than race. Plus, if a black person were to shoot a white person, it wouldn't be a hate crime. Why does the race crime idea only go one way?
The sad fact is, if the victim in this case had been white, no one would care. I can say that because it happens a lot. White people are shot and raped and stabbed and robbed by black people all the time and no one cares.
as for it being about what happens when people own guns, that's like saying drunk driving is a testimony to what happens when we allow people to own cars. Or to make it a bit more personal, its like people who say blind people should never be able to do anything on there own, simply because some other blind person can't handle it. No right should ever be taken away simply because some people abuse it.
Besides, as I said before, the vast majority of gun related crimes in america are commited with illegal guns.
And if you need one more piece of evidence that you're wrong, England and Australia have banned guns, chicago banned guns, Washington D.C. banned guns, california heavily restricts guns, how much do you want to bet those places are nonviolent? You wanna put money that no one gets shot in Australia or England? You wanna throw down some cash that no one walks around with a gun in Chicago or D.C., or a gun that doesn't fit the restrictions of California? Cuz if you wanna bet, I'll take any bet you're willing to put down.
Guns do not kill people, they don't even make it easier to kill people. It isn't that easy to kill someone with a gun. And, most murders in america are not commited with a gun anyway.
Your argument, that people shouldn't be allowed to own guns, is exactly the same argument that blind people shouldn't be allowed to live on there own. Now, I'll sit back and watch you try and back off from that argument, it'll be entertaining.
Well said, Silver Lightening.
That's exactly the point Silver. Anytime a black person is killed or even just inured in this country and if a white person is involved in that, people atomatically ump to the race card. Let's take te injury example since that's not necessarily permanet. The incident could have been a complete accident proven beyond all doubt and yet some people would still cry racism.